Alexander Daniel Bax 11 January at 23:42 Reply Hey guys, just set up a blog, this is where all out drawings and research images go, yaaay ^_^
see y'all soon
Rochelle Burrows 13 January at 12:39 Hey guys! I just want to try and get all of you to look at this website!! Especially if you're finding it difficult to come up with ideas for today. It's really inspiring and you might get something from it. =)
It might also be a good idea if for your blog, you looked at a few images on there (or anywhere else you can find some good examples), and analyse them. I'd make sure they contrasted each other a lot so that you can start to see the clear differences between what makes these companies make the decisions they do. Also, at the end of the day, if we know this stuff, it'll only make our environment stronger. It'll also show Jared that we're using our brains. Look out for things like colour, shape and compositional differences. Certain shapes tell certain stories, just like certain colours.
And "lol" at group two for being stuck with a snow day again! I'd be so pissed off..
Gregory Streeks 13 January at 12:57 Reply wow, i'm waiting to hear some stuff, i literally found out last night about the change but i'm looking still. i really respect those oldskool artist man. what detail. Jonathan Blake 13 January at 17:08 Reply Hey guys,
I created a new blog... Here is the link: http://jonathanblaketv.blogspot.com/ Digital Environments jonathanblaketv.blogspot.com
Jonathan Blake 13 January at 17:12 Gregory I don't know if this will help but here is a link to Glen Keane's work: http://theartofglenkeane.blogspot.com/
Could help with character design. THE ART OF GLEN KEANE. theartofglenkeane.blogspot.com
Alexander Daniel Bax 13 January at 17:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfh1fAFBdqI&feature=related
I found this a while ago, thout it had some good ideas :) silhouette dance group www.youtube.com
Jonathan Blake 13 January at 17:43 Beautiful!
Rochelle Burrows 14 January at 14:08 Hey guys! Here are my five ideas:
- A witches attic. - The interior of a Yurt or Tepee. Inspired by the short film Hugh we saw at Haff Animation Festival.
- A bath tub with toys floating on the water. (Inspired by Tara's bath idea). - The entrance hallway to an enchanted palace. - An authors working desk.
Nothing fancy. Meh. Can't wait to see everyone elses! :)
Rochelle Burrows 14 January at 14:13 Actually, scrap "authors" working desk to travellers working desk. That's a little more interesting. Maps and compasses and all that jazz. =)
Alexander Daniel Bax 14 January at 19:24 k Great ideas so far, sounds good, i may need more convincing what it would be about. I did abit of brain storming an came up with an egyptian idea of a pyramid getting the top point lowered on by a heath robinson inspired pully system with levers and ropes. i was sitting in on the environmental students presentations and they gave me some ideas how i could tie an animation into something relevant and contemporary.
Jonathan Blake 23 January at 18:34 Just finished some stuff on the blog... check it out if you have the time!
Gregory Streeks 24 January at 21:04 hi group, basicaly tommorow i will be in, but only till around 1ish im not gonna be in for the 2pm lcass im hearing about, so if anyone wants to get at me, ill be in from around 10, but i will be in on tuesday also. you can always contact me on here or by email. Gregorystreeks@hotmail.com
Alexander Daniel Bax 24 January at 21:51 cool thanks man.
Rochelle Burrows 26 January at 12:38 Guys, I feel bad for not being able to make it today but I'm going to do my best to still work. Please keep me up to date if any ideas change. I'm going to do some conceptual drawings of the room and some of those colour keys. Possibly even a princess.
But please keep me posted if anything changes. Will be in on Friday for sure.
Sorry I couldn't make it.
Alexander Daniel Bax 26 January at 18:51 Taras been modeling in maya, we got a wall done with windows that are on hinges , so they can open and we cn animate a camera going in. Alex Hulse was explaining to day about different camera animation, creating a motion path, connecting the camera to it and having it focus on a point of interest. also depth of field in camera. Jonathan did blue print drawings for the bed, I'm happy with the design we settled on, hes started story boarding. over the next few days i may do a camera test. like basic blocks in maya and animate the camera to see what would be in shot. were meant to be in friday for contextuals so well meet up then. in the mean time keep an eye on the blog for new material.
I edited together some clips of different after effects title sequences for inspiration, ill get onto designing a title probably next week. I got afew other things i found i need to ut on the blog, so yeah ill keep us updated. :)
seeyou soon Chelle :D
Gregory Streeks 27 January at 18:03 can someone link me to the group blog plz, im about to upload the character concepts, well tonight. scenery next, room etc
Gregory Streeks 27 January at 18:04 http://gregoryconceptman.blogspot.com/ art work and more.. gregoryconceptman.blogspot.com Ok no color or shading just plain concepts, just to show the progress working on 4 to 5 drawings at the moment. planing to do room concepts also.
Tara KImberley Dulake 27 January at 22:41 http://whenigrowupiwant2b.blogspot.com/ POLAR BEAR_whenIgrowupIwant2b.. whenigrowupiwant2b.blogspot.com I was literally playing around in maya and I accidently made the room for our Princess and the Pea Project. Oh well. It won't do us any harm to have it as a back up room.
Gregory Streeks 28 January at 02:26 here aare the concepts for the characters, i will rework and improve. onto the room now. http://gregoryconceptman.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-character-concpts.html art work and more..: new character concpts gregoryconceptman.blogspot.com
Rochelle Burrows 28 January at 02:28 I like them gregory!
Jonathan Blake 28 January at 12:54 Bed designs up!
Rochelle, you can use the design and colour it. Give us a feel.
Rochelle Burrows 28 January at 13:10 Thanks John!!
Tara KImberley Dulake 29 January at 09:16 Hey i dont know who was planning to make it in to contextual studies today, but if everyone could make the effort to come in on tuesday, we could descuss where we are at at the moment and make sure everyone knows what they need to be doing. c ya. xxx
Rochelle Burrows 29 January at 10:52 Hey Tara, I was supposed to come in, but thought the real lesson started at 2, not 11. Alex will tell you. I've posted some stuff on the blog, and going to do some more today seeing as I've finally got a drawing done. See you monday!
Rochelle Burrows 29 January at 10:53 http://whenigrowupiwant2b.blogspot.com/2010/01/princesss-and-schematic.html POLAR BEAR_whenIgrowupIwant2b..: Princess's and Schematic whenigrowupiwant2b.blogspot.com Sorry I realise how difficult the schematic is to understand... i just wanted to post the rough so that you guys could see! Will be cleaning it up on sunday. :)
Jonathan Blake 01 February at 10:37 I added a few things to the blog....
Rochelle Burrows 01 February at 21:43 Added a drawing of the room in a lighting situation. Looking at it zoomed out is probably better. I don't have a good scanner.
Tara KImberley Dulake 03 February at 15:19 Hey peeps. Check the blog out for the lateset modelling for the room. Ive made a list of things yet to be done with it and then if anyone wants to have a go at modelling they can. i dont see why i cant give the scene to rochelle and alex to start with lighting and animation next week as we should just be able to import them in.
Jonathan, i like the intro to the story of the pea rolling off Princess, Were you planning to do that as 2d or 3d??
Greg- If you wanna make a start on some of the picture frame pictures that would be great. they can be pictures of the princess and the pea story, where she stands out in the rain,the pea gets put under the pillow, She gets married, or even just her portrait. As the camera pans round the story can be told, so its just 2d stills needed and i can apply them as a texture.
Rochelle can u upload the sketches for the photoframe/mirror that you did monday.
Who ever is doing the character designs, i can probably do a quick model of her once i finished modelling the room, so if i could get a front view, a side view and maybe a back view of what she will look like that would be great. (This prob wont be needed for a week or so)
Anyone thought about sound??????
like the lighting idea rochelle.
C u all soon. xTarax
Gregory Streeks 03 February at 16:07 yep i'll get on the character designs. but which one have you chosen. not much choice but yeah, i'll get workin on tha asap next tuesday it should be done. also the picture frames. how many do you need? but yeah thats all fine.
Rochelle Burrows 03 February at 17:01 OMFG guys everything looks so damn good!!!
Alexander Daniel Bax 03 February at 17:29 yeah the models look really great, sound wise we need to look for a sound track. just something to play throughout. yeah ill get onto animating the scene next week, so thats fine :)
Tara KImberley Dulake 03 February at 18:15 as many as you like greg, and what ever character design you feel best suits it.
Rochelle Burrows 03 February at 18:21 Sound wise we should definitely go for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vr8wU4aUsM
Alexander Daniel Bax 03 February at 21:26 yeah maybe ;) would be nice to have someone in the sound department knock something out for us :D but since that might be asking a lot, going with a disney soundtrack would fit this the best. Rochelle Burrows 08 February at 10:54 You will not see my face today. However, I'm working on our group project colour thing because yuck! Once Tara put them together on the models they looked pretty bad. Think I'm gonna got for something more simple. :) See you guys tomorrow.
Tara KImberley Dulake 08 February at 22:28 oh thanks!! ok,talk to you all in the morning.xx
Jonathan Blake 11 February at 13:59 Finished the room! POLAR BEAR_whenIgrowupIwant2b..: Princess and the Pea: Completed Room whenigrowupiwant2b.blogspot.com There is nothing more fun than drawing a whole room in Illustrator - Ha! I'm not a concept artist, so this wasn't the best of tasks for me. Hopefully the line quality is strong enough to hold the rich colours the Rochelle has in store for the piece.
Rochelle Burrows 15 February at 20:41 If there is nothing here you really like that's OK but can we please start coming to a conclusion of some sort? If there are some colour schemes here that you think might work better in a different arrangement, tell me. But we need to start narrowing this down. No one gave me any feedback at all last time except for Alex, and I need your opinions so that I can come up with something FINAL.
Alexander Daniel Bax 15 February at 21:06 Nice one rochelle, must of been a lot of work and i think we want to pick the one we like from these ones you've got here on tuesday. Great work :)
Tara KImberley Dulake 15 February at 21:15 i like the ones in the corners
Gregory Streeks 15 February at 23:52 i think the red and brown, third row 2nd last. nice btw
Rochelle Burrows 16 February at 18:18 Those of you who will be doing textures should definitely check out this website. They have a great texture library with cloth textures and patterns and stuff!
http://cgtextures.com/ [CG Textures] - The worlds largest free texture site cgtextures.com
Alexander Daniel Bax 16 February at 18:58 Oh right, nice one finding this txture site rochelle. Am sure it will be most Helpful :D
Tara KImberley Dulake 16 February at 19:44 Hey as you know two people from sound design have got back to me today, we will at least be meeting with one next tuesday, so we need at least a rough render for him to take away. we only technically have two weeks left, so can we all come in on monday to get everything together and know the final touches for next week, thanxs guys. from tara
Alexander Daniel Bax 16 February at 20:04 Will do bubs, deffinately ^_^
Have a good week and weekend All! :)
HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW EVERYONE ON TUESDAY
Rochelle Burrows 16 February at 20:18 Yep! As I said today I will have the colours and light done on the room by tuesday, now that I have a copy of the room. :) See y'all.
Gregory Streeks 16 February at 21:03 ill be in friday, but ill get on the textures. today was good.
Gregory Streeks 17 February at 18:42 you guys manage to get screenium then?
Alexander Daniel Bax 17 February at 18:43 nice one :D
Gregory Streeks 17 February at 18:48 ;)
Rochelle Burrows 17 February at 20:25 yes i got it gregs thanks!!
Gregory Streeks 17 February at 20:40 cool. rochelle can you send me that texture site please. i want to do a few test textures for the beds
Rochelle Burrows 17 February at 21:23 I've done the colours guys! I'll add the light later.
And greg I already posted the link. LOL. But here it is again: http://cgtextures.com/ [CG Textures] - The worlds largest free texture site
Gregory Streeks 17 February at 22:38 ok sorry
Gregory Streeks 17 February at 22:40 question to all i guess. how many matresses will be stacked on the bed, i remember hearing 20!??
Alexander Daniel Bax 18 February at 00:25 well, the room has been expanded, 20 seems about the right number man.
Tara KImberley Dulake 18 February at 10:11 applying textures to the matresses make the texture look weird coz its round, ill have to ask alex about moving the uvs if we can. so if they dont work out how you expected greg, i wouldnt worrie too much.
Gregory Streeks 18 February at 13:01 yeh, i noticed that, i'll upload some screenshots later of what i've done. two questions really. i'm attemting to texture the whole castle, but the door is one full object so i'm guessing if i add a texture to it the whole thing will be textured including the door handle ,screws ,bolts to the door. obviously i would like to texture these seperately do you know how i would go about texturing a single object in different textures...if that makes sense..i think i know a way but i don't want to fuck up anything or joint you have made. let me know.
Gregory Streeks 18 February at 13:03 second question, how do i'm guessin i'll need to import the mattresses to the castle through the 3 mattresses file and keep duplicating, is that how i will bring them into the room correctly? may sound silly but i know later on it i do this wrong it may cause complications.
Alexander Daniel Bax 18 February at 15:41 yeah just import them.
Tara KImberley Dulake 19 February at 13:08 To seperate the objects, you need to click on the object, and go to mesh seperate, but you will need to combine them again afterwards.
Tara KImberley Dulake 19 February at 13:13 we will need to add the textures to alex's scene anyway as his will already have the animation in it.
Rochelle Burrows 19 February at 18:00 Hey guys for some reason the light won't show through the window! It's just black. Do you have any idea why this might be??
Rochelle Burrows 19 February at 22:50 I'm sorry guys but the lights are really pissing me off. They are completely ignoring the geometry and aren't doing what they're supposed to. If this doesn't get done tonight it's gonna have to be done on monday, after speaking to steve, or on tuesday, if steve hasn't got answers, after speaking with alex. I don't know what it's problem is.
Alexander Daniel Bax 19 February at 22:53 its ok rochelle, no sweat. Ill definitely be in on monday and I can ask steve. so yeah be sure to ask Alex on tuesday what could be up with the model. ok have a good weekend.
Rochelle Burrows 19 February at 23:44 I'll be in on monday too, so Steve can remember who I am. LOL. And thank you, I was really stressing! Got the candles done though, and the abient. It just looks a little dead with no sunlight, but I'm sure once i speak to someone about it and they help me out, it can be finished by monday or tuesday.
Alexander Daniel Bax 20 February at 00:51 yaay k thats cool :)
Tara KImberley Dulake 20 February at 11:21 hey alex hows the animation going?
Alexander Daniel Bax 20 February at 12:37 is going good, have completed 5 mattresses so far, am working on the rest right now. may have a go at the curtains. but i wanted my weekend reserved for steves project, so i will finish the animation for the group and get on with that one next, hows ur moom animation going? Alexander Daniel Bax 21 February at 12:49 hey Tara, hope ur weekends going good. I got a question. was trying to do the ncloth. I created the plane, told it to create ncloth, constrained the 2 top vertices to the bar. but i cant find the nucleus. so i followed the instructions, just give me a quick run down on how to create the Ncloth again.
am nearly finished with the mattresses. Still need to key frame a rippling effect going down the other mattresses, but i will get to that very soon. for the curtains i considered doing the wind on them as normal, and for when the curtains blow open with the window, i may just put some different shapes on another layer, animate them moving through the curtain so they behave as desired on queue, then simply obscure the layer the objects are on.
I will do a test later today and put it up. But if it doesn't look very convincing i will have a go key framing the wind in the ncloth versions of the curtains. it will look more like a natural cloth, its just it might be a bit more difficult to get it to behave the way u want. nO WORRIES, I'll handle it :)
I have been working on a rippling effect that goes down through the mattresses, so far i have gotten a decent bounce out of each mattress.
The first two fall a bit slowly compared to later ones which look more convincing. but i will get it to the point where all the mattresses are in the scene, then i will start animating the knock on effect of all of them pilling up on top of each other.
To its still rough but i am working on it right now.
quick work in progress on the mattresses. I think i will have that animation part of it finished by the end of the day, if i have time i will have a go at the curtain, i will try to get this done for tuesday at the latest. on tuesday if everyone could be in, i will give u all a copy of the scene so u each can work on it.
Anyway, i will try and get the animating part of it done and leave some room this weekend for me to do some more on steves project.
Have been working on this most of monday night and it is finally coming together.
It's still a little too quick but that I am confident is easily fixed.
If everyone is happy with how it looks I will crac kon with animating the matresses.
I was mostly worried i wasn't getting enough of the other props in the scene enough screen time.
Problem is the room i pretty small and the camera is as far away from the bed as possible without clipping through the brick wall.
So its something to consider is how big the room is to accomodate for the camera. But anyway its fine, camera movement is pretty smooth so Id say this is the closest i have got to what we had in mind for the scene.
If there is nothing here you really like that's OK but can we please start coming to a conclusion of some sort? If there are some colour schemes here that you think might work better in a different arrangement, tell me. But we need to start narrowing this down. No one gave me any feedback at all last time except for Alex, and I need your opinions so that I can come up with something FINAL.
There is nothing more fun than drawing a whole room in Illustrator - Ha! I'm not a concept artist, so this wasn't the best of tasks for me. Hopefully the line quality is strong enough to hold the rich colours the Rochelle has in store for this piece.
These took a really long time. If you like anything here great, but if you don't then can you please be sure to make your own too so that we have more of a range to choose from. It's not easy coming up with these colour palettes and having them work well together. It takes a lot of time, and I have to start thinking about the lighting too.
If you're wondering why I chose the colours I did, seeing as you guys wanted more "green" I went with complimentary colours that had yellows and greens in them. Again, if there's nothing here that you like I really need some of you to work on your own colour palettes so that I can move on with this thing and focus on the lights. I also need a concept of the room pretty soon so that I can work out what the whole thing will look like in colour instead of just the bed. Thanks.
Petterns for furniture Big iron door, prob not needed but cool Wood for the chest of draws furniture More pattern for the matresses Wood and iron for the door frame. HEy GUys went to leeds castle, here are some textures i gathers from it.Can be used on any raidiator fixings, or under the window seat. Walls and bricks for any exterior walls.